Saturday, October 06, 2007

What Did He Say?!

I've never listened to a single sermon by Mark Driscoll. If he really said this, I don't believe I ever will...especially if he thinks this is appropriate content for a sermon:

Roughly two thousand years ago, Jesus was born in a dumpy, rural, hick town, not unlike those today where guys change their own oil, think pro wrestling is real, find women who chew tobacco sexy, and eat a lot of Hot Pockets with their uncle-daddy. Jesus' mom was a poor, unwed teenage girl who was often mocked for claiming she conceived via the Holy Spirit. Most people thought she concocted the crazy story to cover the fact she was knocking boots with some guy in the backseat of a car at the prom.
Steve Camp attributes this comment to Driscoll. The original post is here.

I think this is what those in the "emerging" or "emergent church" movement call cutting edge or relevant. I call it smug and potty-mouthed.


Baxter said...

I agree. Not only that, it is speculation and going beyond what is written. I think we can only say what the scriptures say about Mary. As for the rest of what others thought or said, it's just speculation! And what a crude way to describe what others would think.

On the lighter side, if you like the Wonder Years, you might also like Leave it to Beaver. There's a 24 hour marathon on. I miss that time in my life.

Rick Frueh said...

I will never understand, Keith, the obvious elephant in the room. Driscoll is an intelligent man with communicative skills, but he claims a Calvinistic theology.

So why would someone who espouses a sovereign unconditional election desire to be so "relevant" in his speaking style so as even to be crass and inappropriate? You see my point? The Arminians are the ones who would say "You have to speak that way in Seattle because they are all crass and you need to come down to their level or they won't get saved".

Why oh why would a Calvinist say such a thing, it makes no sense except it might reveal a prideful and swashbuckling attitude.

Keith said...

I don't see why a Calvinist OR an Arminian has to speak that way. The question is always asked: "What's wrong with it." The question should be: "What's RIGHT about it?" Being crass isn't necessary. I fully understand the meaning of phrases such as "he lay with her." I don't need explicit details to help me understand.

The position Tim takes really makes me sad.

Unknown said...


"I don't need explicit details to help me understand."

Then let's cut out Ezekiel 23 for starters... I mean what was Ezekiel thinking when he wrote that pornography! I mean it is inspired and all but really is it necessary?

Oh, and Martin Luther... and his use of the "s" word... let's just ignore his contribution...